A new proposal for writing Persian net-alphabet:

[Parviz Varjavand]

1. A - Ab (water)
2. B - Baba (father)
3. C - Cib (apple)
4. D - Dad (gave)
5. E - Ecm (name)
6. F - Fil(elephant)
7. G - Gorbe (cat)
8. H - Homa (a bird)
9. I - Iran (Iran)
10. J - Jib (pocket)
11. K - Kar (work)
12. L - Lub (lip)
13. M - Mar (snake)
14. N - Nan ( bread)
15. O - Omid (hope)
16. P - Pir (old)
17. Q - Qali(carpet)
18. R - Rah (road)
19. S - Sadi (joy)
20. T - Turc (fear)
21. U - Ucul (honey)
22. V - Vuqt (time)
23. W - Mow (vine)
24. X - Xoda (God)
25. Y - Yek (one)
26. Z -Zurd(yellow)
27. OO - gOOs (ear)
28. CC - CCesm (eye)
29. JJ - JJale (dew)
30. EE- sumEE(candel)

Dubire

Dooctan e gerami aqayan Uli Hucoori, Ruham Asha,Robert Langer, Davur Seyxavundi, vu Buhmun oradian.

Uz soma ejaze mixahum ke buhci ra piramoone siveye nevestune Farci ba xute "Dubire" dur miyan bogozarum.

Ba ejazeye aqaye doktor Hucoori, buxsi uz pacox e isan ra be nameyi ke burayesan neveste boodum buraye soma hum poct mikonum. DUBIRE be zoodi varede murhuleye jedituri uz huyate xod xahud sod vu be in eelut uct ke bare digur uz soma dooctan ected'a mikonum ke nuzuriyate eclahiye xod ra uz mun duriq nufurmayid.

Ugur hengame ercale pacox, dokmeye "Reply All" ra bezunid, juvabetan be ducte tumame dooctane digure in list xahud recid Qorbane humeye soma , Purviz Vurjavund



DUBIRE
This is the "Dubire" convention for writing Persian using ABCD. It is the best and most logical way to do so. Once you get used to it, you will be amazed how fast and well you will be able to read and write everything. It may be a little hard to get started, but please don't give up. The rewards you will reap having a fast and virtually spelling free way of

writing Persian will be well worth it.

Buraye nevestune Farci ba ABCD, in behturin qurardad, vu namus "Dubire" uct. Hengami ke an ra yad begirid vu ba an qudri tumrin konid, motuvujeh xahid sod ke nevestun vu xandune Farci ba an ccequdr kar ha ra acan xahud kurd.

BE NAME XODAVUNDE JAN O XERUD

KUZ IN BURTUR UNDISE BUR NUGZURUD TUVANA BOVUD HURKE DANA BOVUD ZE DANES DELE PIR BORNA BOVUD ZE NIROO BOVUD MURD RA RACTI ZE COCTI KUJI AYUD O KACTI DURIQ UCT IRAN KE VIRAN SUVUD KONAME PULUNGAN O SIRAN SUVUD

[Bahman Moradian]

DUBIRE 2

bahman moradian <[url]bahman_moradian@yahoo.fr[/url]> wrote:

agaye Varjavand, roozxos

Dubire be nuzurum qurardade xoobi ust uma ccand nuzur darum (ulbute dur hur coorut avanevicie yek
zuban be xute digur acan nict vu bayud tumrin kurd):

1. dur rahnemaye qurardad bayud 2 mored gofte suvud

a. mubnaye nevestun tulufoze vaje uct (cce tulufoze ketabi ya vuqti hurf mizunim) vu be turze nevestun
(emla) rubti nudarud.

b. dar cooruti ke ccund hurfe cedadar dur kenare hum qurar gereftund mituvan anha ra ba yek " - " joda
kurd

2. qurardade " u ", " oo " cuxt uct. ectefade " aa " buraye " Water " " aab ", " a " = " abr " vu " u " = " gus " behtur uct ke dur in coorut do tuqyir kum misuvud.

3. hurfe somare-e 30 dur rahnema esgal darud. Ccon agar mubna emlae kulume basud dur in coorut bayud dur somare-e 21 benevicud eecul be jaye ucul uma ugur mubna tulufoze vaje basud dur an coorut in hurf ccund tulufoz darud ke ya " u " ust: ucul "hony", corut "speed", uca (englicie an ra nemidanum), buzi
"some", caut "clock", fualiut "activities",dud "after" ya " e "-e caken ust mecle esq "love", ser "poem", memar "architect" ya a mecle adut "habitual" va gahi hum do seda ba hum mecle buid "far, never", mowzue "subject", eynuk "glasses". pus bayud tozih dad ke dur morede in hurf mubna talafoz ust vu cedaye " e "-e caken ra hum e minevicim.

[Parviz Varjavand]

--- bahman moradian bahman_moradian@yahoo.fr wrote:

agaye Varjavand, roozxos Dubire be nuzurum qurardade xoobi ust uma ccand nuzur darum (ulbute dur hur coorut avanevicie yek zuban be xute digur acan nict vu bayud tumrin kurd):

1. dur rahnemaye qurardad bayud 2 mored gofte suvud a. mubnaye nevestun tulufoze vaje uct (cce tulufoze ketabi ya vuqti hurf mizunim) vu be turze nevestun (emla) rubti nudarud.

b. dar cooruti ke ccund hurfe cedadar dur kenare hum qurar gereftund mituvan anha ra ba yek " - " joda kurd

2. qurardade " u ", " oo " cuxt uct. ectefade " aa " buraye " Water " " aab ", " a " = " abr " vu " u " = "gus " behtur uct ke dur in coorut do tuqyir kum misuvud.

Buhmun Jan,

Ectefade uz "AA" humise moskel afurin xahud bood vu hurke uz an ectefade bokonud be zoodi an ra xahud endaxt vu yek "A" xahud nevest. Muculun hengami ke bexahim benevicim "Abadan ubudun nubayud ruft" (xocoocun dur tabectan , soma migooyid benevicim "AAbaadaan abadan nabaayad raft". Aabaadaan ra melut puc uz ccund bar nevestun baz abadan xahund nevest.

Sayud mohem turin hocne DUBIRE an basud ke hecabe in do ra uz hum joda mikonud. "oo" rayej uct vu muvarede tekrarus dur zubane Farci xeyli kumtur uz cedaye U.

"Moos" vu "Goos" cade tur xande misuvud ta "Mus" vu "Gus".

3. hurfe somare-e 30 dur rahnema esgal darud. Ccon agar mubna emlae kulume basud dur in coorut ayud dur somare-e 21 benevicud eecul be jaye ucul uma ugur mubna tulufoze vaje basud dur an coorut in urf ccund tulufoz darud ke ya " u " ust: ucul "hony", corut "speed", uca (englicie an ra nemidanum), buzi
"some", caut "clock", fualiut "activities",dud "after" ya " e "-e caken ust mecle esq "love", ser "poem", memar "architect" ya a mecle adut "habitual" va gahi hum do seda ba hum mecle buid "far, never", mowzue
"subject", eynuk "glasses". pus bayud tozih dad ke dur morede in hurf mubna talafoz ust vu cedaye " e "-e caken ra hum e minevicim.

Buhmun Jan, Inke mubna "Tulufoz" uct ve nu "Em'mlaee", in ra soma doroct mifurmayi vu sayud towzih dadun nudaste basud ccon hurkuc do cutr ba dubire benevicud vu bexanud motuvujehe in mowzooee xahud sod.

Nevestune ba DUBIRE mecle doccurxe cuvari mimanud. Vuqti cuvare kar dur ucure nevestun sodi, digur nevestun tubieei misuvud vu ehtiyaj be "Ductoore Zuban" vu towzihat nudarud.

Vajje haye Urubi xocoocun ke EE daste basund dur hur coorut moskel afurin vu cuqil huctund. Anha ra bayud ba dunde komutiye "EE" vu "'" ya "," rud kurd. Hala mun tumame vjjehaye Urubiye EEyn dar ra ke soma nevesti ba DUBIRE minevicum, bebin ke ccundan hum cuxt nict.



UCUL - COREE'UT ya CORUT - UCA - BUEEZI - CAUT - FUEEALIYUT - BUEED - ESQ - SEER - E'EEMAR - ADUT - BUEEID - MOWZOOEE - EYNUK.

Mun dur nevestune vajjehaye bala uz hicc ductoori ectefade nukurdum vu hurcce munteqi dur hengame
tulufoze amiyane be nuzurum amud, human ra nevestum.

Aya soma moskeli dur in siveye cciz nevici mibini?

Qorbanut, Purviz

[Davar Sheikhavandi]

purvize uziz,

har ccund ke mun ba dubaire ziyad kar nukardeum vuli uz humin moxtusur fuhmidum ke in xut muxcooce mokatebeye interneti ust. (vuli mun "furanuk" motuqedum ke in komuk be buccehaee ust ke horofe farsi ra nuyamoxtund) be nuzure mun ugur uz cedahaye do hurfi surfe nuzur suvud vu be jaye anha uz aksan estefade suavud sayud behtur basud, manunde Âftab (sun) , çund (howmany) , Êtebar (credit), #264;usm (or ) çesm (eye), horoofe dotai joor ra najoor mikonud.

por tuvan bemani,

dsheikhavandi@yahoo.com

[Parviz Varjavand]

Davur Jan vu Furanuk jan, Bare digur Jusne Nowrooz ra xedmute soma tubrik gofte arezooye cale xoob vu porbari ra buraye soma darum.

Horoofe ABCDE male Oroopa ya kesvurhayi ke furhunge "Latin" ya "Yoonani" darund nict. ABC be vucileye murdomi tudvin sode ke zubanesan caxtari mosabehe Farciye konooni daste.

Dur in zubanha cedaye "U" vu cedaye "A" tekrare becyar darund vu cotoone ucliye gooyes huctund.

Ugur ma nutuvanim cedaye "U" ra moctuqelun daste basim vu mujboor suvim ke "Kolah" cure "A" bogozarim ta "U" ra be duct avurim, nevestare ma yek nuqce ucaci xahud dast. Cedahaye "CC" vu "OO" vu "JJ" tekraresan dur gooyes becyar kumtur uz "U" ya "A" mibasud. Soma be humin nevesteye mun tuvujoh konid vu besomarid ke ccund bar "U" vu "A" tekrar misuvund dur moqabele dufeati ke "JJ" ya "OO" ya "CC" tekrar misuvund. Be in juhut mun hecabe cedaye "U" ra uz anhaye digur joda mibinum. "EE" cedayi uct muxcooce Urubi vu eskali nemibinum ugur qudri cuqil basud ccera ke Urubi hume'us cuqil uct vu buraye an bayud uz "Dunde Komuk" ectefade kurd.

CCon tumame xuthaye Oroopa nemituvanud "Davur" ya "Furanuk" ra benevicund vu mujboor huctund uz "Dunde Komuk" manunde tekrare "AA" ya kolah gozastun cure an ectefade konund, aya doroct uct ke ma niz an moskel ra dur xuteman tekrar konim ?

Qorbanetan, Purviz

[Guest]

Dustâne gerâmi:

This is my first post. First, I have to congratulate the founders on the fravahr.org for creating a beautiful and highly informative site for all of us to enjoy.

I have created a couple of sites as listed below:

http://iranianlanguages.com

and

http://UniPers.com

In the latter site there are several keyboard layouts that users can download which allow them to type in Persian in UniPers (a phonemic Latin-based) alphabet. The alphabet and the keyboard layouts are easy to use and very intuitive.

Sepâs

[Karpan/Qorban]

Qorbanetan ...

Sorry if this message is not to your taste, but why do we Iranians keep using the word "Qorban" when ending our conversations? Qorban, as I can recall, is the Arabicized version of the word KARPAN which occurs quite often in the Gathas of Zarathushtra. The Karpans were a group of Iranians who believed in sacrificing animals like cows and even horses to the old Aryan gods. This practice was condemned by Zarathushtra himself. But somehow it creeped back into our culture after his passing.

Now I keep hearing this word "Qorban" all the time from our fellow Iranians. Do they mean that they will sacrifice themselves for others to show their respect? To me it sounds like utter nonsense at best, and a real hypocritical statement at worst.

In the end I also have a comment about the spelling of the suffix "-etan" as in "Qorbanetan". The correct Persian suffix is "-atan" with an "a" not "-etan" with an "e".